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What's the point in retuning Pachelbel's Canon into all these different tunings? For one thing, everyone knows it. Also, it has a simple chord progression, I-V-vi-iii-IV-I-IV-V, which avoids the problem of the "comma pump" (sequences which in some tuning systems end up a comma higher or lower from where they started). The endless repetition of the same harmonic sequence allows the listener to become accustomed to the tuning over a period of time. And while most music just sounds wrong when put into different tunings, this is one of the few that I've found that actually sounds reasonably nice even in some of the more extreme tunings. Thus, it provides a known reference to allow for a rough comparison of all of these different tuning systems. In actual use, many of these scales have resources beyond what this simple comparison might suggest, but I hope this will provide a good starting point for some of the less familiar scales.

Note: if the pitches in the first few seconds of the MIDI files sound wrong, try playing this GM reset file first.

MIDI file index

Just Intonation

3-limit JI (Pythagorean) (1/1:81/64:3/2), 5-limit JI (4:5:6), 5-limit JI minor (1/1:6/5:3/2), 5-limit JI, 2nd inversion (3:4:5), 5-limit JI minor, 1st inversion (1/1:5/4:5/3), 7-limit JI (4:5:7), 7-limit JI (4:6:7), 7-limit JI utonal (1/1:7/5:7/4), 7-limit JI utonal (1/1:7/6:7/4), 7-limit JI subminor (6:7:9), 7-limit JI (9:7:15), 9-limit JI (5:7:9), 11-limit JI (7:9:11)

Near-just scales

34-TET, 41-TET, 46-TET, 53-TET, 58-TET, 65-TET, 72-TET, 171-TET, 1/8-schisma temperament, Starling temperament (388-cent thirds, 700-cent fifths), Lumma's temperament (384.4-cent thirds, 700.0-cent fifths), 3-limit JI (Pythagorean) as a schismic temperament (1/1:8192/6561:3/2)

John A. deLaubenfels' adaptive versions

5-limit COFT, 5-limit adaptive, 7-limit adaptive

Meantone scales

12-TET, 19-TET, 26-TET, 31-TET, 33-TET as a meantone, 43-TET, 50-TET, 55-TET, 69-TET, 1/6-comma meantone, 1/4-comma meantone, 2/7-comma meantone, 1/3-comma meantone, 1/7-comma meantone with 1/7-comma widened octaves, LucyTuning (695.5-cent fifths), Kornerup's golden meantone (696.2-cent fifths)

Multiples of 5-TET

5-TET, 10-TET, 15-TET, 20-TET, 25-TET, 30-TET*, 30-TET (alternative)**

*The smoothest 30-TET tunings of this sequence are identical to 15-TET and 10-TET. This is an "extra-spicy" discordant version unique to 30-TET.

**This new alternative version is based on a scale with two large and five small steps.

Multiples of 7-TET

7-TET, 14-TET, 21-TET, 28-TET, 35-TET

Tunings with strong 7-limit implications

12-TET, 15-TET, 22-TET, 27-TET, 37-TET, 42-TET, 49-TET, 59-TET

Other equal scales

6-TET, 8-TET, 9-TET, 11-TET, 11-TET (alternate version), 13-TET (version A), 13-TET (version B), 16-TET, 17-TET, 17-TET (alternate version), 18-TET, 23-TET, 24-TET (quartertones), 29-TET, 32-TET, 32-TET (as a diaschismic scale), 33-TET, 36-TET (with small major thirds), 39-TET, 51-TET, 56-TET

Circular 12-note temperaments

Barnes "Bach", Bendeler III, Bach/Lehman 1722, Kellner "Bach", Keyhole, Neidhardt 1732 "Small City", Neidhardt 1732 "Village", Sorge 1758, Vallotti, Werckmeister III

More notes on these tunings on this page.

Blackjack scales

otonal (0 1> 2 3> 6> 5> 8>), utonal (0 2 3 5 6> 7 8>), beating (0 2> 3 4 6> 7 9>), microstep (0 0> 2 5 5> 7 7>)

Non-octave scales

88-CET (~5/2 "octaves"), 88-CET (alternate version), 88-CET (third version, ~7/4 "octaves"), a 7-limit JI non-octave scale (1/1 28/25 6/5 5/4 7/5 3/2 25/16 42/25 7/4)

Alternative orchestrations

11-limit JI (7:9:11), 5-TET, 8-TET, 13-TET "anti-pentatonic" (0-3-5-8-10), Bohlen-Pierce (just), Tempered Bohlen-Pierce, Slendro*, Pelog*, Chopi scale*, "Top" father temperament (see below), "Top" mavila temperament

*Tuning values for these scales are approximate. In actual use, each octave would vary slightly in tuning.

About the tunings

The tuning of the canons is based on the 7-note diatonic scale. In the familiar 12-note equal-tempered scale and other meantone tunings, this scale contains five large steps and two small steps, in the order L-L-s-L-L-L-s. But this pattern doesn't work in most of the tuning systems illustrated here. Instead, the retuned versions are based on the harmonic structure of the diatonic scale, which can be represented in a diagram like this:
       B   F#  C#
(C)  G   D   A   E
This structure can be generated automatically by defining two constants: the size of the perfect fifth and the major third. (The minor third is the difference between the two.) A third constant, the size of the octave, is used in non-octave scales and scales with tempered octaves, but most of the tunings here have exact 2/1 octaves. All the other intervals in the scale are combinations of the basic intervals multiplied together.

In the 5-limit JI (just intonation) tuning, the fifth is tuned to an exact 3/2 (702.0 cents) as nearly as possible, and the major third is tuned to 5/4 (386.3 cents). The interval between E and B, 40/27 (680.4 cents), is a discordant "wolf" fifth, which differs from the perfect fifth by a syntonic comma (81/80 or 21.5 cents). This scale has two different sizes of whole steps -- a somewhat larger one from D to E, G to A, or B to C# (9/8 or 203.9 cents), and a slightly smaller one from E to F# or A to B (10/9 or 182.4 cents). Two diatonic semitones (16/15 or 111.7 cents) complete the octave. Other tunings can be categorized by the sizes of their fifths and thirds in comparison to JI.

Note: defining the constant for the size of the third as a minor third instead of a major third results in a minor key version of the canon! Other substitutions have even more unusual results. See above under "Just Intonation" for a set of tunings based on this harmonic structure with different sizes of intervals.

Meantone temperaments

Unison vector 81:80 [-4 4 1] 21.5¢

Meantone temperaments divide the major third into two equal steps, intermediate in size between 10/9 and 9/8. A sequence of four ascending fifths ends up at the same note as a major third plus two octaves. Sharps are lower in pitch than the enharmonic flats (except in 12-TET, where they are equivalent). The fifths of meantone are tempered slightly flat to improve the accuracy of the thirds. Additionally, the octaves may be slightly sharpened to improve the thirds while keeping the fifths closer to just. Meantone scales may be classified by the size of their fifths.

tuning              fifth     scale
12-TET (24, 36)     700.0     0  2  4  5  7  9 11 12
67-TET*             698.5
1/6-comma           698.4
55-TET              698.2     0  9 18 23 32 41 50 55
98-TET*             698.0
43-TET (86*)        697.7     0  7 14 18 25 32 39 43
1/5-comma           697.7
Tenney-Optimal      697.5644 (with 1201.6985 cent octaves)
74-TET              697.3     0 12 24 31 43 55 67 74
31-TET (62, 93)     696.8     0  5 10 13 18 23 28 31
1/4-comma           696.6
81-TET              696.3     0 13 26 34 47 60 73 81
golden              696.2
7/26-comma          696.2
50-TET (100)        696.0     0  8 16 21 29 37 45 50
2/7-comma           695.8
69-TET              695.7     0 11 22 29 40 51 62 69
LucyTuning          695.5
88-TET              695.5     0 14 28 37 51 65 79 88
1/3-comma           694.8
19-TET (38, 57, 76) 694.7     0  3  6  8 11 14 17 19
45-TET              693.3     0  7 14 19 26 33 40 45
26-TET              692.3     0  4  8 11 15 19 23 26
33-TET*             690.9     0  5 10 14 19 24 29 33
*33, 67, 86, and 98-TET tunings include major thirds that are closer to just than their meantone thirds.

Schismic temperaments

Schismic temperaments have a good approximation to a major third by going up eight fourths and down three octaves. 12-TET is on the borderline between meantone and schismic temperaments. These tunings can also be notated as a linear sequence of fifths, like meantone scales, but the "major third" would then be notated as a diminished fourth. These scales are called "schismic" because they evenly distribute the schisma (32805/32768 or about 1.95 cents). The lattice diagram for a schismic temperament looks like this:
    Abb Ebb Bbb Fb  Cb  Gb  Db  Ab
  Eb  Bb  F   C   G   D   A   E
B   F#  C#  G#  D#  A#  E#  B#
tuning              fifth     scale
29-TET              703.4     0  5  9 12 17 21 26 29
41-TET (82)         702.4     0  7 13 17 24 30 37 41
94-TET              702.1     0 16 30 39 55 69 85 94
3-limit JI*         702.0
53-TET*             701.9     0  9 17 22 31 39 48 53
171-TET*            701.8     0 29 55 71 100 126 155 171
1/8-schisma*        701.7
65-TET*             701.5     0 11 21 27 38 48 59 65
77-TET*             701.3     0 13 25 32 45 57 70 77
89-TET              701.1     0 15 29 37 52 66 81 89
12-TET (24, 36)     700.0     0  2  4  5  7  9 11 12
*these tunings are near-just; fourths and thirds are within 5.0 cents of just.

Diaschismic temperaments

Diaschismic temperaments are tunings in which the Pythagorean comma is twice the size of the syntonic comma. Scales are built from 2 independent series of fifths tuned half an octave apart. Thus, diaschismic temperaments may also be classified by the size of their fifths, like meantone and schismic temperaments.
tuning              fifth     scale
10-TET (20)         720.0     0  2  3  4  6  7  9 10
32-TET              712.5     0  6 10 13 19 23 29 32
54-TET              711.1     0 10 17 22 32 39 49 54
22-TET (44, 66)     709.1     0  4  7  9 13 16 20 22
78-TET              707.7     0 14 25 32 46 57 71 78
56-TET              707.1     0 10 18 23 33 41 51 56
90-TET              706.7     0 16 29 37 53 66 82 90
34-TET (68)         705.9     0  6 11 14 20 25 31 34
80-TET              705.0     0 14 26 33 47 59 73 80
46-TET (92)         704.3     0  8 15 19 27 34 42 46
58-TET              703.4     0 10 19 24 34 43 53 58
70-TET              702.9     0 12 23 29 41 52 64 70

MAGIC temperaments

Unlike the preceding three categories of tunings, which approximate the major third with a series of fifths, this category of tunings approximates a fifth with a series of five (slightly flat) major thirds. These tunings can be organized by the size of their major thirds.
tuning              third     scale
25-TET              384.0     0  5  8 10 15 18 23 25
22-TET (44, 66)     381.8     0  4  7  9 13 16 20 22
85-TET              381.2     0 15 27 35 50 62 77 85
63-TET              381.0     0 11 20 26 37 46 57 63
41-TET (82)         380.5     0  7 13 17 24 30 37 41
60-TET              380.0     0 10 19 25 35 44 54 60
79-TET              379.7     0 13 25 33 46 58 71 79
19-TET (38, 57, 76) 378.9     0  3  6  8 11 14 17 19
35-TET              377.1     0  5 11 15 20 26 31 35

Porcupine temperaments

Porcupine temperaments (named by Paul Erlich after the harmonic progression featured in my Mizarian Porcupine Overture) are defined as having a unison vector of 250:243, or 21 3-5 53. This means that a sequence of five fifths down and three thirds up ends up exactly two octaves down. The canon scale in Porcupine temperament has three sizes of steps (L, M, S) in the sequence L-M-S-L-M-L-S; the medium-size step is exactly halfway between the large step and the small step in size. This scale is a subset of the basic Porcupine scale of 15 notes, which is built from a generator of around 160-165 cents.
    G#  D#
  E   B   F#  C#
C   G   D   A   E
      Bb  F   C
            Ab
Note that the two pairs of notes in the scale diagram labeled "C" and "E" actually represent different pitches: Porcupine temperament is not represented well by standard diatonic notation. See the porcupine temperament page for more information about notating porcupine scales.

tuning              third     fifth     scale                   (L  M  S)
15-TET (30):        400.0     720.0     0  3  5  6  9 11 14 15   3  2  1
37-TET:             389.2     713.5     0  7 12 15 22 27 34 37   7  5  3
59-TET:             386.4     711.9     0 11 19 24 35 43 54 59  11  8  5
22-TET (44, 66):    381.8     709.1     0  4  7  9 13 16 20 22   4  3  2
51-TET:             376.5     705.9     0  9 16 21 30 37 46 51   9  7  5
29-TET:             372.4     703.4     0  5  9 12 17 21 26 29   5  4  3

Tunings with strong 7-limit implications

Unison vector 64:63 [6 -2 0 -1] 27.3¢

This is a small family of scales that shares the property of having relatively sharp fifths, which narrows the minor sevenths to just the right extent to sound like good approximations to the seventh harmonic (7/4, 968.8 cents). Again, 12-TET is the borderline case that just barely fits in this category (it actually has slightly narrow fifths, but it just happens that two fourths up is the best approximation of the 7th harmonic).

tuning              fifth     scale
15-TET:             720.0     0  3  5  6  9 11 14 15 
42-TET:             714.3     0  8 14 17 25 31 39 42
37-TET:             713.5     0  7 12 15 22 27 34 37 
59-TET:             711.9     0 11 19 24 35 43 54 59
27-TET:             711.1     0  5  9 11 16 20 25 27 
49-TET:             710.2     0  9 16 20 29 36 45 49
22-TET:             709.1     0  4  7  9 13 16 20 22 
12-TET:             700.0     0  2  4  5  7  9 11 12

Near-just tunings

(all consonant intervals within 5.0 cents)
tuning              fifth   third     scale
90-TET              706.7   386.7     0 16 29 37 53 66 82 90
34-TET (68)         705.9   388.2     0  6 11 14 20 25 31 34
80-TET              705.0   390.0     0 14 26 33 47 59 73 80
46-TET (92)         704.3   391.3     0  8 15 19 27 34 42 46
75-TET              704.0   384.0     0 13 24 31 44 55 68 75
87-TET              703.4   386.2     0 15 28 36 51 64 79 87
99-TET              703.0   387.9     0 17 32 41 58 73 90 99
94-TET              702.1   383.0     0 16 30 39 55 69 85 94
3-limit JI schismic 702.0   384.4
53-TET              701.9   384.9     0  9 17 22 31 39 48 53
171-TET             701.8   386.0     0 29 55 71 100 126 155 171
1/8-schisma temp.   701.7   386.3     D E Gb G A Cb Db D
65-TET              701.5   387.7     0 11 21 27 38 48 59 65
77-TET              701.3   389.6     0 13 25 32 45 57 70 77
Starling temp.      700.0   388.0
72-TET              700.0   383.3     0 12 23 30 42 53 65 72
84-TET              700.0   385.7     0 14 27 35 49 62 76 84
96-TET              700.0   387.5     0 16 31 40 56 71 87 96
Lumma's temp.       700.0   384.4
91-TET              698.9   382.4     0 15 29 38 53 67 82 91
Note: 41-TET (a schismic temperament) has major thirds that are 5.8 cents flat and minor thirds 6.3 cents sharp. However, it is often mentioned as a near-just scale because of its excellent approximations to higher-limit JI. 58-TET is almost as good at approximating 5-limit JI as 41-TET, and is consistent to the 17-limit.

Tunings with 400-cent thirds

These tunings divide the octave into three equal parts, the familiar 12-TET major third. The size of the fifths in these tunings varies widely.
tuning              fifth     scale
18-TET              733.3     0  4  6  7 11 13 17 18 
15-TET (30)         720.0     0  3  5  6  9 11 14 15 
42-TET              714.3     0  8 14 17 25 31 39 42
27-TET              711.1     0  5  9 11 16 20 25 27 
39-TET              707.7     0  7 13 16 23 29 36 39 
12-TET (24, 36)     700.0     0  2  4  5  7  9 11 12
33-TET              690.9     0  5 11 14 19 25 30 33
21-TET              685.7     0  3  7  9 12 16 19 21

7-TET and multiples

The multiples of 7-TET (up to 35-TET) are remarkably similar in structure. The best approximation to a major third in each scale is one step above the 7-TET "neutral third". This pattern breaks down with 42-TET, which has a better fifth at the other (sharp) end of the scale.
 7-TET:  0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7
14-TET:  0  2  5  6  8 11 13 14
21-TET:  0  3  7  9 12 16 19 21
28-TET:  0  4  9 12 16 21 25 28
35-TET:  0  5 11 15 20 26 31 35

Dicot temperaments

Scale structure with three large and four small steps: L-s-s-L-s-L-s.
10-TET:  0  2  3  4  6  7  9 10 
13-TET:  0  3  4  5  8  9 12 13
17-TET:  0  3  5  7 10 12 15 17
24-TET:  0  4  7 10 14 17 21 24 

Mavila (pelogic) temperaments

Scale structure with two large and five small steps: s-L-s-s-L-s-s.
 9-TET:  0  1  3  4  5  7  8  9 
11-TET:  0  1  4  5  6  9 10 11
16-TET:  0  2  5  7  9 12 14 16
23-TET:  0  3  7 10 13 17 20 23
30-TET:  0  4  9 13 17 22 26 30

Other equal tunings

In the 5-TET and 8-TET versions of the canon, notes a semitone apart in the original tuning come together as the same note, resulting in a pentatonic scale.

6-TET works out to be 7-limit consistent, but the "scale" that results is reduced to a single augmented triad. To make a reasonable "translation", the equivalent of the major triad is defined as 0-3-4 (D-G#-A#). This results in the scale 0-2-3-2-4-5-7-6 (D-F#-G#-F#-A#-C-E-D).

11-TET is a difficult scale to write for; most intervals are dissonant. This retuning is based on the symmetrical 0-3-6 chord, which results in the scale 0-1-3-5-6-8-9-11. Symmetrical chords like this seem to work well in 11-TET.

The first version of 13-TET is also built from a symmetrical chord: 0-4-8 (scale: 0-3-4-5-8-9-12-13). The second version is built from the chord 0-4-7 (scale: 0-1-4-6-7-10-11-13).

The 17-TET version was tuned based on a chain of 17-TET fifths, resulting in a major chord of 0-6-10 and a symmetrical scale of 0-3-6-7-10-13-16-17. This scale, like the meantone scales, divides the "major third" (a very sharp one) into two equal parts, but unlike meantone tunings, sharps are higher in pitch than the enharmonic flats.

The 20-TET version is based on the major triad 0-7-12, resulting in a scale of 0-4-7-8-12-15-19-20.

24-TET, 30-TET, and 36-TET contain smaller ET scales within themselves (12-TET and 15-TET). The thirds in the 24-TET and 36-TET retunings are tuned one step smaller than normal, and the thirds in the 30-TET retuning are one step sharper.

The original 32-TET version was based on the major triad 0-11-19, resulting in a scale of 0-6-11-13-19-24-30-32.

The Blackjack scale

Blackjack is a 21-note tuning created by Paul Erlich based on the so-called MIRACLE generator, from a 31-note tuning created by Dave Keenan. The MIRACLE tuning is a recent rediscovery of a tuning created by George Secor in 1975. It can be represented (as it is here) as a subset of 72-TET, taking every seventh note. The resulting scale (in degrees of 72-TET) is 0-2-7-9-14-16-21-23-28-30-35-37-42-44-49-51-56-58-63-65-70-72. A representation of this scale in one ASCII version of 72-TET notation is C C> Db^ D[ D> D#< E[ Ev F< F F#v F#^ G G> Ab^ A[ A> A#< B[ C< C. In Graham Breed's decimal notation, this scale is represented more neatly as 0 0> 1 1> 2 2> 3 3> 4 4> 5 5> 6 6> 7 7> 8 8> 9 9> 0< 0. The Blackjack harmonies are represented here in decimal notation.

Although Blackjack doesn't have enough fifths in a row for a traditional diatonic scale, it is rich in other harmonic structures. For the Blackjack retunings, I've tried a number of different ways to remap the harmony of the canon in a way that fits into the Blackjack lattice. Two of these tunings exploit the 7-limit harmonies that Blackjack is known for; there is an otonal version based on the harmonic series, approximating 4:5:7, and a utonal version approximating 1/(7:5:4). There is also a strange beating version, based on a discordant 1/1 : 11/9 : 32/21 triad, and a version that shows off the very small steps available in the Blackjack tuning, based on a 7:8:10 triad. The structure of the remapped scales works like this:

    otonal           utonal            beating          microstep
  5>  3>  1>        7   5   3         7   3   9>        7   2   7>
2   0   8>  6>    2   0   8>  6>    4   0   6>  2>    5   0   5>  0>

original  otonal  utonal beating microstep
   D        0       0       0       0
   E        6>      6>      2>      0>
   F#       3>      5       3       2
   G        2       2       4       5
   A        8>      8>      6>      5>
   B        5>      7       7       7
   C#       1>      3       9>      7>
Notice what this does to the melody!
Original:  F# E  D  C# B  A  B  C# | D  C# B  A  G  F# G  E
otonal     3> 6> 0  1> 5> 8> 5> 1> | 0  1> 5> 8> 2  3> 2  6>
utonal     5  6> 0  3  7  8> 7  3  | 0  3  7  8> 2  5  2  6>
beating    3  2> 0  9> 7  6> 7  9> | 0  9> 7  6> 4  3  4  2>
microstep  2  0> 0  7> 7  5> 7  7> | 0  7> 7  5> 5  2  5  0>

Non-octave scales

88-CET is a scale created by Gary Morrison, with equal steps of 88 cents each. The harmonic structure of the canon is remapped to steps 0-7-10-18 of 88-CET, or in 12-TET + cents notation: D Ab+16 B-20 F#-16. This approximates the chord 1/(10:7:6:4).
  15  07  17
08  00  10  02

original  88CET   cents   12-TET + cents
   D        0        0      D +0
   E        2      176      E -24
   F#       7      616      Ab+16
   G        8      704      A +4
   A       10      880      B -20
   B       15     1320      Eb+20
   C#      17     1496      F -4
   D       18     1584      F#-16
The alternate version is mapped to a chord that approximates 4:6:7:10.

The Bohlen-Pierce (BP) scale is a 7-limit JI tuning discovered by Heinz Bohlen, which is built from factors of 3, 5, and 7 without any octaves. The original BP scale is represented as a sequence of ratios from a base pitch: 1/1 27/25 25/21 9/7 7/5 75/49 5/3 9/5 49/25 15/7 7/3 63/25 25/9 3/1. The 3/1 interval serves as the equivalent of the octave for this scale. There is also a tempered version of the BP scale (independently discovered by Heinz Bohlen, John Robinson Pierce, and Kees van Prooijen), based on dividing the 3/1 into 13 equal steps of 146.3 cents each. Because this scale is based on ratios of odd integers, it works best with timbres containing odd harmonics, such as clarinets. For this retuning of the canon, the 5:7:9 triad (or its tempered equivalent) is used as a substitute for the major triad.

original Just BP  cents   12-TET + cents  Tempered BP  cents   12-TET + cents
   D       1/1      0.0     D +0               0         0.0     D +0
   E      27/25   133.2     Eb+33              1       146.3     Eb+46
   F#      7/5    582.5     G#-17              4       585.2     G#-15
   G       5/3    884.4     B -16              6       877.8     B -22
   A       9/5   1017.6     C +18              7      1024.1     C +24
   B       7/3   1466.9     E#-33             10      1463.0     E#-37
   C#     63/25  1600.1     F#+0              11      1609.3     F#+9
   D       3/1   1902.0     A +2              13      1902.0     A +2

Tenney-Optimal ("Top") temperaments

These temperaments, developed by Paul Erlich, have octaves that are slightly tempered, but not to such an extreme that they don't sound like octaves. In a sense, these are meant to exemplify "ideal" versions of more general temperaments such as meantone, minimizing the deviation from just intonation of all the intervals in the temperament.

The "Top" meantone temperament has a generator of 504.13 cents (a very slightly wide fourth) and a period of 1201.70 cents (just barely wider than an octave). It has a very smooth, pleasant sound, with fifths of 697.56 cents and major thirds of 386.86 cents, and the 1.7-cent wide octaves help to add a bit of realistic animation to electronic instruments with their unnaturally perfect octaves.

Mavila temperament (named in reference to Erv Wilson's "meta-mavila" tuning, which gets its name from the Chopi village of Mavila) is a tuning in which the generator is even wider than the fourths of meantone temperament. It has also been referred to as "pelogic" temperament, from its resemblance to the Indonesian Pelog scale, with five small steps and two large steps. The main difference is that in genuine Balinese and Javanese pelog scales, the steps are of all different sizes, but in mavila temperament, there are exactly two different sizes of steps. And although pelog is typically used with five-note modes, mavila temperament can be extended to 9-, 16-, and 23-note scales. An interesting feature of mavila temperament is that its "major" intervals correspond with the "minor" intervals of the diatonic scale, and vice versa. As with the genuine pelog scales, the mavila temperament works best with slightly enlarged octaves: the "Top" mavila temperament has a generator of 521.52 cents (a wide fourth) with an octave of 1206.55 cents.

"Father" is a temperament in which the closest approximation of a major third or a perfect fourth is the same interval, a quarter-tone-flattened fourth. This results in a bizarre "anti-pentatonic" scale with two small steps and three large steps (L-s-L-s-L). It's very dissonant with most ordinary timbres, but it sounds a little better with carefully selected timbres, as in my 8-TET and 13-TET "anti-pentatonic" versions of the canon. The "Top" father temperament has a generator of 447.39 cents (a quarter-tone-flattened fourth) and a period of 1185.87 cents (a very narrow octave, very noticeably flat).